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Talking Money with Kelley Keehn
Written by Annastasia Liu

Friday, November 8th, 2019

How often do you talk about money?

Whether it's with friends or family members, for many people, talking about money is not an easy thing to do. It can feel awkward, impolite and sometimes even intimidating or taboo.

Kelley Keehn has been on the financial scene for many years, and she's not afraid to discuss money topics, but she understands it's still a huge challenge for many Canadians.

In her upcoming book, Talk Money To Meshe sets out to help Canadians save well, spend some, improve their financial literacy and feel good about their money.

No Set Financial Journey

While Talk Money To Me is targeted to Millennials, they're not the only ones who can benefit from reading this book. “Generally speaking," Keehn says, “the book is for Millennials and what they're struggling with, but there's no set financial journey anymore."

Many different stories and anecdotes are shared in Talk Money To Me, from people just starting their careers, to those recently divorced or the "sandwich generation" straddling parenthood and caring for their own aging parents.

What's Your Script?

One standout point throughout Keehn's book is the emotional, psychological and physiological factors that affect our financial wellbeing and vice versa. It's like the effect of mirror neurons that are triggered when we see others enjoying something, which sparks a desire for that experience. Ever scroll past a friend's amazing vacation pictures and find yourself looking up vacation packages? Yup, those mirror neurons were at work.

Growing up in a low-income household can affect our feelings about money, too. Keehn shares how the "poor kid syndrome" affected her perspective on finances as an adult. As a way to avoid feeling and appearing poor, she fell into a cycle of overspending to fulfill her own insecurity.

Her brother, who had a similar upbringing, took the opposite approach, rarely spending money on himself. “It's important to find your script," Keehn explains. “Be aware of why you're making certain financial decisions. Is it to fulfill an insecurity? Growth and how you grow is through conversation. Talking with others can shine a light on your own situation."

Becoming a Financial Detective

While many personal finance books and blogs encourage folks to create a budget, Keehn takes the opposite approach with what she calls the 30-Day Anti-Budget. “When you just make a budget without looking at your spending, it doesn't make you dig into your finances," says Keehn.

The purpose of the 30-Day Anti-Budget is to keep track of all your spending and analyze your behaviours. Whether you do it for 30 days or a week, the goal is to gain awareness about how you spend and why. “It's like being a financial detective. Just making a budget doesn't make you dig into your finances but the anti-budget does."

Once you've got that down, you can start taking small steps that will amount to big wins. Checking credit card statements, setting up fraud alerts, reviewing investments you may only look at once a year. “Even if you don't have much money to start, you can do research and build your knowledge," Keehn says.

Putting It into Practice

The thing I appreciated about Talk Money To Me was Keehn's non-judgmental approach and how practical the tips were, no matter where you are on your financial journey. After trying out the Anti-Budget approach for about a week, I had a better awareness of my spending behaviours and common slip-ups.

For me, going to my favourite store after a stressful day at work was a real money drain, so instead I started hitting the gym. I started looking more closely at my retirement savings, checking my credit card statements and discussing savings with my husband and friends.

One thing Keehn wants all readers to walk away knowing after reading Talk Money To Me? “Your net worth is not your self-worth," she says.

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